The last time I spoke to Chris was about a month ago. We met on Twitter and we spoke for about two and a half hours.

I wanted to get him in on a conversation. In this conversation, we talk about simplicity and how app makers do things that we don't like. It's a fantastic conversation and we'd love to share it with you.

Podcast

You can check the full podcast on Apple, Spotify or Google.

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No lead magnets. No sales emails. I'm not even trying to convince you to join my email list. But you sure will learn new things if you're on it.